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Michael Allen's avatar

I think it's best for us to flip the division 90 degrees. There are those in power and then there are those under the thumb of such.

Even if we upend the table and drive a sword through the heart of corruption, what next? Throughout history, every body that has gained power has eventually been corrupted by it. How do we keep this from happening again? What would you do to stave off corruption if faced with the seemingly irresistible draw?

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John Stuckey's avatar

Sorry for the delayed response! I have no worries about corruption because 'soon' industrial civilization will collapse. When the dust finally settles, there will be billions fewer of us, no more nation-states, no modern technology....none of the crap that surrounds us, today. Mother Earth will have given us a 'choice.' Either live within our means, as we did for countless millennia before the scourge of 'civilization' came along and stomped out our most natural instincts, or we go extinct. Weird thought, I know, but it's what is coming.

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John Stuckey's avatar

Well, I think corruption is built-in to any society controlled by a State, especially with different economic systems still in existence at the same time. That's where I think Trotsky was 'right' to push for universal revolution. He foresaw the inevitable compromises the USSR would have to make. Stalin's 'Socialism in one country' was the result, and it led to disaster, even if it helped them survive the #1 objective of Nazism, which was to 'Smash Bolshevism.'

As for keeping it from happening in the future, I have no idea, but after the now-inevitable collapse of industrial civilization, I am hopeful that there will be no more nation-states. The only 'choices' we will have will focus on much, much smaller communities, since the ability to govern large areas and populations will have disappeared in the messes of that collapse.

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